gc_peshwa
08-20 01:04 PM
I can give you my example. 10 years in the US and got greened yesterday. Background -
B. Tech. from IIT - 1999. Always believed in hard work and dedication.
2000/2001 - Came to the US
2003 - Filed labor - RIR - EB3
2004 - job loss
2004 - Joined so called fortune 500 company with 15000 + employees and presence in 50 countries. They promised but never filed GC.
2005 - Filed Canada PR.
2005 - Quit and joined Desi company. Started GC process on day-1.
2005- Filed under Perm EB-3 (lawyer screwed). Got approved in 3 months.
2006 - Filed I-140 got approved in 3 weeks.
2007 - July Fiasco and filed I-485. Got AP, EAD. Wife started to work.
2008 - EB-3 sucked so talked to employer to file in EB-2. Desi company did not care as long as I paid for it.
2009 - Filed labor, got approved in 6 months.
2009 - Filed EB2 I-140 and requested to re-capture the PD of first labor.
2009 - I-140 approved, same day saw an LUD on pending I-485. Also, approved I-140 came with A# and EB-3 labor PD.
2009 - Bought a home.
2010 - July, dates became current.
Opened SR, got a response that my case is still in EB3. NSC sucks.
Asked lawyer to send letter to USCIS. He did, nothing happened.
Contacted senator and they opened up a congressional request with USCIS.
Within 2 days, USCIS issued RFE about incomplete medical. It was total BS.
Contacted doctor and got chest X-Ray and replied RFE.
Took several Inforpass appointments.
EAD expired, did everything but could not get renewed on time.
Did not tell anything to HR about expired EAD, both kept mum and kept working.
Had fights at DMV to get DL extended.
Aug-17th, GC got approved.
Is this all worth it? I do not know. Only reason I joined desi company with 2 employees is that desi company was ready to file GC on day-1. I have seen so called Fortune-xx companies. They lied to me.
Overall - I am a happy person. Would continue with Desi employer for some more time.
Now that we have GC, I would like to -
1. Spend more time with family and not worry about LIN-XXXX numbers.
2. Think about doing MBA.
3. Move to a warmer place like CA.
Good Luck. I would suggest - Talk to your employer and explain your situation. You have nothing to lose.
Kumar1
Tremendous story of grit and determination I must say....In fact every one of the EB immigrants story can become a storyline for a great movie :-)
B. Tech. from IIT - 1999. Always believed in hard work and dedication.
2000/2001 - Came to the US
2003 - Filed labor - RIR - EB3
2004 - job loss
2004 - Joined so called fortune 500 company with 15000 + employees and presence in 50 countries. They promised but never filed GC.
2005 - Filed Canada PR.
2005 - Quit and joined Desi company. Started GC process on day-1.
2005- Filed under Perm EB-3 (lawyer screwed). Got approved in 3 months.
2006 - Filed I-140 got approved in 3 weeks.
2007 - July Fiasco and filed I-485. Got AP, EAD. Wife started to work.
2008 - EB-3 sucked so talked to employer to file in EB-2. Desi company did not care as long as I paid for it.
2009 - Filed labor, got approved in 6 months.
2009 - Filed EB2 I-140 and requested to re-capture the PD of first labor.
2009 - I-140 approved, same day saw an LUD on pending I-485. Also, approved I-140 came with A# and EB-3 labor PD.
2009 - Bought a home.
2010 - July, dates became current.
Opened SR, got a response that my case is still in EB3. NSC sucks.
Asked lawyer to send letter to USCIS. He did, nothing happened.
Contacted senator and they opened up a congressional request with USCIS.
Within 2 days, USCIS issued RFE about incomplete medical. It was total BS.
Contacted doctor and got chest X-Ray and replied RFE.
Took several Inforpass appointments.
EAD expired, did everything but could not get renewed on time.
Did not tell anything to HR about expired EAD, both kept mum and kept working.
Had fights at DMV to get DL extended.
Aug-17th, GC got approved.
Is this all worth it? I do not know. Only reason I joined desi company with 2 employees is that desi company was ready to file GC on day-1. I have seen so called Fortune-xx companies. They lied to me.
Overall - I am a happy person. Would continue with Desi employer for some more time.
Now that we have GC, I would like to -
1. Spend more time with family and not worry about LIN-XXXX numbers.
2. Think about doing MBA.
3. Move to a warmer place like CA.
Good Luck. I would suggest - Talk to your employer and explain your situation. You have nothing to lose.
Kumar1
Tremendous story of grit and determination I must say....In fact every one of the EB immigrants story can become a storyline for a great movie :-)
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mbawa2574
07-06 06:27 PM
Bummer !!!!!
django.stone
11-03 03:58 PM
I hope once DOS decides to change the spillover and give the extra visas to Eb3 (whoever ROW , India....). The ensuing discussions from from the self glorified EB2 crowd here would make for an entertaining reading. I would like to see how much they enjoy the predictions after that.
Changing to vertical spillover will NOT help EB3 India or China. EB3 ROW is not current and it will suck up all overflow leaving EB2I, EB2C, EB3I and EB3C to their annual quota only. USCIS changing the process to horizontal spillover is the best thing that has happened to I and C community in the absence of immigration reform. Now there is at least some hope for EB3 folks to get a new job and apply in EB2, as at least that queue is faster. If we fight among ourselves and stop vertical spillover, it will only benefit EB3ROW as they will get all overflow from EB1 and EB2ROW. Please guys, let's not fight.
Changing to vertical spillover will NOT help EB3 India or China. EB3 ROW is not current and it will suck up all overflow leaving EB2I, EB2C, EB3I and EB3C to their annual quota only. USCIS changing the process to horizontal spillover is the best thing that has happened to I and C community in the absence of immigration reform. Now there is at least some hope for EB3 folks to get a new job and apply in EB2, as at least that queue is faster. If we fight among ourselves and stop vertical spillover, it will only benefit EB3ROW as they will get all overflow from EB1 and EB2ROW. Please guys, let's not fight.
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DoggyStyle
07-21 10:31 PM
I knew the call was a BS. I don't want to waste my prepaid calling card. Real job ads are hard to come by these days, and H1b job ads
don't exist any more.:D
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abhidos37
08-22 05:41 PM
Mine is EB3 from India. I still hope the next years numbers could be coming out on Oct.
ronhira
07-07 12:45 AM
Over 60% of the US and 90% of Arizona supports the law they passed. Obama and his Attorney General are doing the wrong thing by interfering with state politics. How can these high ranking officials tell state law enforcement NOT TO enforce laws? The Supreme court will favor AZ even before the case starts. Slam Dunk.
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amitga
06-24 02:30 PM
Schumer Says Immigration Reform Will Happen - Roll Call (http://www.rollcall.com/news/36228-1.html)
Sen. Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) maintained Wednesday that Congress will tackle comprehensive immigration reform this Congress, and perhaps even this year.
�All of the fundamental building blocks are in place to pass comprehensive immigration reform this session and, even possibly, later this year,� Schumer, the No. 3 Democratic leader, said during a speech before the Migration Policy Institute.
Schumer, chairman of the Judiciary Subcommittee on Immigration, Refugees and Border Security, outlined key principles that must be part a reform bill, including strong enforcement of illegal immigration, an employer-based verification system and a direct path to citizenship.
The Democratic Conference vice chairman, who will join a group of lawmakers at the White House on Thursday for a summit on immigration, underscored �the intensity for solving this problem once and for all� this year. Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) has similarly suggested that immigration must be tackled sooner rather than later.
�I have no doubt that President Obama has an unyielding commitment to achieving comprehensive immigration reform,� Schumer said. �And I truly believe that his leadership will be the critical difference in getting us over the hump this time around.�
Schumer said the last legislative attempt in the 110th Congress failed because it wasn�t strong enough in clamping down on illegal immigration. This year, he said, that issue must be a top priority.
�I think on the part of the left, there�s an understanding that unless we convince American we�re going to be really tough ... it�s the only way to do it,� Schumer said.
With Republican losses among immigrant voters in the last election, Schumer said the GOP has an interest in moving on a reform bill as well.
Reid said Tuesday that immigration remains a top priority this year � just behind health care reform and climate change legislation. He said he has spoken with White House officials on the matter, and despite a packed schedule that includes appropriations bills and a Supreme Court confirmation, the Majority Leader said he has the votes and the support to take on another complex issue this year. Obama, for his part, has said he wants to get negotiations rolling on immigration but hasn�t laid out a timetable for passing a reform package.
Sen. Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) maintained Wednesday that Congress will tackle comprehensive immigration reform this Congress, and perhaps even this year.
�All of the fundamental building blocks are in place to pass comprehensive immigration reform this session and, even possibly, later this year,� Schumer, the No. 3 Democratic leader, said during a speech before the Migration Policy Institute.
Schumer, chairman of the Judiciary Subcommittee on Immigration, Refugees and Border Security, outlined key principles that must be part a reform bill, including strong enforcement of illegal immigration, an employer-based verification system and a direct path to citizenship.
The Democratic Conference vice chairman, who will join a group of lawmakers at the White House on Thursday for a summit on immigration, underscored �the intensity for solving this problem once and for all� this year. Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) has similarly suggested that immigration must be tackled sooner rather than later.
�I have no doubt that President Obama has an unyielding commitment to achieving comprehensive immigration reform,� Schumer said. �And I truly believe that his leadership will be the critical difference in getting us over the hump this time around.�
Schumer said the last legislative attempt in the 110th Congress failed because it wasn�t strong enough in clamping down on illegal immigration. This year, he said, that issue must be a top priority.
�I think on the part of the left, there�s an understanding that unless we convince American we�re going to be really tough ... it�s the only way to do it,� Schumer said.
With Republican losses among immigrant voters in the last election, Schumer said the GOP has an interest in moving on a reform bill as well.
Reid said Tuesday that immigration remains a top priority this year � just behind health care reform and climate change legislation. He said he has spoken with White House officials on the matter, and despite a packed schedule that includes appropriations bills and a Supreme Court confirmation, the Majority Leader said he has the votes and the support to take on another complex issue this year. Obama, for his part, has said he wants to get negotiations rolling on immigration but hasn�t laid out a timetable for passing a reform package.
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chanduv23
04-13 08:26 AM
I dont think there will be any movement for May and June. July could see a big movement.
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bvibhu
08-16 03:04 PM
I think it does not make sense even if you re-file it. Your second application may also take ages to get a receipt. In that case, should we keep re-filing endlessly??? :)
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11-09 01:08 PM
Still waiting for FP and no SR is filed
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somegchuh
12-07 01:59 PM
I see there is a lot of discussion about how one day GOI will have an agreement with US Govt and we will all get benefits of all social security taxes paid. I don't see that happening because India doesn't have a social security system! US does have social security agreements with a lot of countries but those countries have social security programs. US transfers credits and the other govt has to take care of the details. Also, these agreements are always bilateral. India would have to offer some sort of social security or something in return to US nationals working there. I wouldn't get my hopes high about getting social security money if you leave the US before getting 40 credits. In fact even if you do gather the credits ... by the time you become eligible in 30 years things could be drastically different and you may not get a single penny out of it.
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pappu
09-01 07:46 AM
It worked now after 2 days. I think my explorer settings need work. I don't know much about them
I have never thought about slogans. Will keep that in mind. What is the deadline?
We need a slogan that mentions H1B's contribution to Social Security. I have not been able to find an article that mentions it. There are lot articles that mention undocumented workers contribution in billions. Just imagine how much we must have contributed and NO ONE mentions it
also scan through the vivek wadhwa report and pick a few lines to use as slogans from it. we need it this long weekend. Franklin is working on collecting them and finalizing it. we are running short on good slogans
I have never thought about slogans. Will keep that in mind. What is the deadline?
We need a slogan that mentions H1B's contribution to Social Security. I have not been able to find an article that mentions it. There are lot articles that mention undocumented workers contribution in billions. Just imagine how much we must have contributed and NO ONE mentions it
also scan through the vivek wadhwa report and pick a few lines to use as slogans from it. we need it this long weekend. Franklin is working on collecting them and finalizing it. we are running short on good slogans
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andy garcia
12-30 01:04 PM
Longq,
Are these info are based on good guess? If not, can you provide us some link, or attach jpg with highlighting relevent facts.
From November 2005 Visa Bulletin
HOW IS THE EMPLOYMENT-BASED PER-COUNTRY LIMIT CALCULATED?
Section 201 of the INA sets an annual minimum Family-sponsored preference limit of 226,000, while the worldwide annual level for Employment-based preference immigrants is at least 140,000. Section 202 sets the per-country limit for preference immigrants at 7% of the total annual Family-sponsored and Employment-based preference limits, i.e. a minimum of 25,620.
* The annual per-country limitation of 7% is a cap, meaning visa issuances to any single country may not exceed this figure. This limitation is not a quota to which any particular country is entitled, however. The per-country limitation serves to avoid monopolization of virtually all the visa numbers by applicants from only a few countries.
* In recent years, the application of the rules outlined in AC21 has allowed countries such as China � mainland born, India, and the Philippines to utilize large amounts of employment numbers which would have otherwise gone unused.
* During FY due to anticipated heavy demand, the AC21 provisions are not expected to apply, and the amount of Employment numbers available to any single country will be subject to the 7% cap. It is anticipated that the addition of unused FY-2005 Family numbers and the remaining AC21 numbers to the 140,000 annual minimum will result in an FY-2006 annual Employment limit of 152,000. This will mean an Employment per-country limit for FY-2006 of approximately 10,650.
* To illustrate the effect of the reduced per-county limitation during FY-2006 on the oversubscribed countries, it should be noted that during FY-2005 India used approximately 47,175 Employment numbers.
Are these info are based on good guess? If not, can you provide us some link, or attach jpg with highlighting relevent facts.
From November 2005 Visa Bulletin
HOW IS THE EMPLOYMENT-BASED PER-COUNTRY LIMIT CALCULATED?
Section 201 of the INA sets an annual minimum Family-sponsored preference limit of 226,000, while the worldwide annual level for Employment-based preference immigrants is at least 140,000. Section 202 sets the per-country limit for preference immigrants at 7% of the total annual Family-sponsored and Employment-based preference limits, i.e. a minimum of 25,620.
* The annual per-country limitation of 7% is a cap, meaning visa issuances to any single country may not exceed this figure. This limitation is not a quota to which any particular country is entitled, however. The per-country limitation serves to avoid monopolization of virtually all the visa numbers by applicants from only a few countries.
* In recent years, the application of the rules outlined in AC21 has allowed countries such as China � mainland born, India, and the Philippines to utilize large amounts of employment numbers which would have otherwise gone unused.
* During FY due to anticipated heavy demand, the AC21 provisions are not expected to apply, and the amount of Employment numbers available to any single country will be subject to the 7% cap. It is anticipated that the addition of unused FY-2005 Family numbers and the remaining AC21 numbers to the 140,000 annual minimum will result in an FY-2006 annual Employment limit of 152,000. This will mean an Employment per-country limit for FY-2006 of approximately 10,650.
* To illustrate the effect of the reduced per-county limitation during FY-2006 on the oversubscribed countries, it should be noted that during FY-2005 India used approximately 47,175 Employment numbers.
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pappu
02-21 02:45 PM
This is the first time I am hearing about this. If there are more such instances/OP can provide his full details, IV can ask USCIS if this is true.
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hydboy77
02-11 05:08 PM
vdl rao is an irrational person. without any sound reasoning he started that stupid thread "eb2 India will be current", when I tried to point out something about the amount of eb3 to eb2 portings going on and how this will set the eb2 dates back significantly I was given red dots (what else can they do). The people in that thread were halucinating about eb2 being current. Reality should now set in, there in no way eb2 is even going to 2006 anytime soon. This is the sad reality.
Last year there were only about 3 to 4k spillover from eb1 to eb2, eb2 row pretty much consumed all the eb2 row numbers and there was no spillover from eb2 row to eb2 india and eb2 china.
If the same trend continues we might get 3k spillover to eb2 india\china which will advance PD by a month. Some people are hoping that because of the bad economy there might not be many eb1 applications and that will lead to spillover to eb2, that is wrong assumption, the people getting approval in eb1 in 2009 are people who applied in 2008 and earlier when the economy was doing good, lay offs started only in nov-dec of 2008. Even if eb1 applications drop because of bad economy the results would be reflected in 2010 and not in 2009.
USCIS is not going to waste any visa numbers anymore. That means the last rollover from FB to eb has already happened in 2008 and might not happen ever again.
Last year there were only about 3 to 4k spillover from eb1 to eb2, eb2 row pretty much consumed all the eb2 row numbers and there was no spillover from eb2 row to eb2 india and eb2 china.
If the same trend continues we might get 3k spillover to eb2 india\china which will advance PD by a month. Some people are hoping that because of the bad economy there might not be many eb1 applications and that will lead to spillover to eb2, that is wrong assumption, the people getting approval in eb1 in 2009 are people who applied in 2008 and earlier when the economy was doing good, lay offs started only in nov-dec of 2008. Even if eb1 applications drop because of bad economy the results would be reflected in 2010 and not in 2009.
USCIS is not going to waste any visa numbers anymore. That means the last rollover from FB to eb has already happened in 2008 and might not happen ever again.
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DDash
01-11 03:30 PM
Dont worry...we are not alone. Infact, we (I and my wife) are going through this phase as we speak.
1) As someone else pointed group insurance is the best option so far in my research.
2)** Chk out this site: http://www.aim.ca.gov/english/costs.html I am planning to apply soon hoping that we will qualify
3) Call a OBGYN and tell them that you dont have insurance, generally they will suggest a community center kind of a place where you can get started with prenatal care, such as re-confirmation, ultrascan etc
4) Call the hospital for the payment plan and get into it.
Good luck to us.
**EDIT: Point 2 is for CA residents only.
1) As someone else pointed group insurance is the best option so far in my research.
2)** Chk out this site: http://www.aim.ca.gov/english/costs.html I am planning to apply soon hoping that we will qualify
3) Call a OBGYN and tell them that you dont have insurance, generally they will suggest a community center kind of a place where you can get started with prenatal care, such as re-confirmation, ultrascan etc
4) Call the hospital for the payment plan and get into it.
Good luck to us.
**EDIT: Point 2 is for CA residents only.
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Berkeleybee
02-05 01:02 PM
Good idea. Most of the Bay Area folks are in South Bay and I am sure would find it pretty easy to get to ICC.
Bluekayal
Bluekayal,
Did you get a chance to look at the ICC board of directors? They are exactly the kind of people who we need on our side (and in our bank account).
I may be getting carried away here -- but if we get coherent enough, wonder if we could do a fund raising event at the ICC.
Berkeleybee
Bluekayal
Bluekayal,
Did you get a chance to look at the ICC board of directors? They are exactly the kind of people who we need on our side (and in our bank account).
I may be getting carried away here -- but if we get coherent enough, wonder if we could do a fund raising event at the ICC.
Berkeleybee
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ek_bechara
07-08 02:50 PM
Based on what Zoe Lofgren said in the video interview it is clear that no piece meal changes will be entertained. Courtesy of the media (read: Lou Dobbs) and the hispanic representation in the Congress/Senate any legal immigration effort is held at gun-point. In my opinion all changes will be rolled up into CIR, which may pass as late as 2010. Be it Obama or McCain, they have bigger issues to address before worrrying about immigration and that to legal immigration. Both have to live up to poll promises and immigration reform features only as a lip-service when both speak on the campaign trail. Bringing the troops home, addressing issues with economy, and solving the energy needs will be prioririty number one for the new President.
I spent considerable time reading the last CIR proposal and it was clearly in favor of illegal immigrants. Restrictions on hiring legal immigrants and choking their talent featured at the top of the "to do" list for legal immigrants like us. I dont see much change in the next CIR. Few changes here or there but the word "Comprehensive" in CIR is reserved for illegals.
Who is to blame? In my opinion, US. Not U.S but us (we the people). On one hand you observe legal hispanic immigrants and business fighting for the cause of their community and on the other we conveniently forget our community as soon as we adopt this alien land. I live in the Bay Area and boy have I seen the marathi mandals, kannada sanghas, TANA, AATA, BATA and God knows how may orgranizations that represent our fractured presence in this country. We have shamelessly displayed our differences based on cultural backgrounds/needs. Sardar Patel's dream of "Ek akhand bharat" (one united India) seems to reverberate only when India plays Pakistan in a game of cricket. I wonder if people such as Vinod Khosla, Vinod Dham, Arun Netravali, Indra Nooyi understand or are are atleast cognizant of the issues their community is facing. For a wild second, imagine the above four making a few phone calls. I bet the impact will be huge.
Congratulating ourselves for small achievements and patting each other the back for things such as two year EAD extension, etc is great but the celebrations have to stop and we need to focus on CIR. Immigrationvoice is a great organization and I will not take away anything from it. That said, collecting a few hundred thousand, making phone calls, and sending flowers is going to do jack-shit. We need representation on the corridors of power. That's where the battle is.
Finally anybody who calls the D.C rally a success needs to go easy on the weed. I was there and I can tell you, it was pathetic. Compare that to the L.A rally by the hispanic community. We can give a million explanations on why the D.C rally was under-represented. The bottomline my friends is that the L.A illegal rally got more coverage on CNN and the media, which clearly translated into a biased CIR.
Lastly, please dont take a few lines from what I've written and display your rebuttal skills. Frankly, I give a rats ass on what you have to say.
I spent considerable time reading the last CIR proposal and it was clearly in favor of illegal immigrants. Restrictions on hiring legal immigrants and choking their talent featured at the top of the "to do" list for legal immigrants like us. I dont see much change in the next CIR. Few changes here or there but the word "Comprehensive" in CIR is reserved for illegals.
Who is to blame? In my opinion, US. Not U.S but us (we the people). On one hand you observe legal hispanic immigrants and business fighting for the cause of their community and on the other we conveniently forget our community as soon as we adopt this alien land. I live in the Bay Area and boy have I seen the marathi mandals, kannada sanghas, TANA, AATA, BATA and God knows how may orgranizations that represent our fractured presence in this country. We have shamelessly displayed our differences based on cultural backgrounds/needs. Sardar Patel's dream of "Ek akhand bharat" (one united India) seems to reverberate only when India plays Pakistan in a game of cricket. I wonder if people such as Vinod Khosla, Vinod Dham, Arun Netravali, Indra Nooyi understand or are are atleast cognizant of the issues their community is facing. For a wild second, imagine the above four making a few phone calls. I bet the impact will be huge.
Congratulating ourselves for small achievements and patting each other the back for things such as two year EAD extension, etc is great but the celebrations have to stop and we need to focus on CIR. Immigrationvoice is a great organization and I will not take away anything from it. That said, collecting a few hundred thousand, making phone calls, and sending flowers is going to do jack-shit. We need representation on the corridors of power. That's where the battle is.
Finally anybody who calls the D.C rally a success needs to go easy on the weed. I was there and I can tell you, it was pathetic. Compare that to the L.A rally by the hispanic community. We can give a million explanations on why the D.C rally was under-represented. The bottomline my friends is that the L.A illegal rally got more coverage on CNN and the media, which clearly translated into a biased CIR.
Lastly, please dont take a few lines from what I've written and display your rebuttal skills. Frankly, I give a rats ass on what you have to say.
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h1techSlave
04-23 01:16 PM
how can Latinos be deported? Could you please explain? Are you accusing that all Latinos in this country are here illegally?
If I were a person of Latino origin, I will be very angry with folks who assume that all Latinos are illegals.
And to all the guys replying to my earlier post that such laws will increase racial profiling etc. In my opinion laws to make illegal immigrants' life difficult is basically good for us. I totally agree that non-white folks will be inspected by cops during the initial period of enactment of the law. What's the big deal about it. We will be stopped by cops. They will check our papers and will leave us, won't they? The same is true for Latinos (if they are here legally). Like I have written earlier, I have been living in a county which has implemented 287 g for the last several years and I NEVER had any issue with this. I have personally met the county chief of cop who has been a very vocal supporter of the program and he did not immediately arrest me.
The cop will fine you if you did not have the insurance card; under the present bill, the latino has a chance of being deported and not fined......huge difference!
If I were a person of Latino origin, I will be very angry with folks who assume that all Latinos are illegals.
And to all the guys replying to my earlier post that such laws will increase racial profiling etc. In my opinion laws to make illegal immigrants' life difficult is basically good for us. I totally agree that non-white folks will be inspected by cops during the initial period of enactment of the law. What's the big deal about it. We will be stopped by cops. They will check our papers and will leave us, won't they? The same is true for Latinos (if they are here legally). Like I have written earlier, I have been living in a county which has implemented 287 g for the last several years and I NEVER had any issue with this. I have personally met the county chief of cop who has been a very vocal supporter of the program and he did not immediately arrest me.
The cop will fine you if you did not have the insurance card; under the present bill, the latino has a chance of being deported and not fined......huge difference!
JunRN
08-22 11:22 PM
Eb3 will definitely retrogress by about 2 years. Maybe back to June 2002 or 2003.
mrajatish
04-02 12:10 PM
Sent both faxes - fellow friends, please do this to prevent the debacle.
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